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The LGBTQ community has won the right to same-sex marriage and achieved unprecedented visibility in politics, media and entertainment. [...] Travis Salway is an epidemiologist trying to close this gap. In 2014, he discovered that in Canada, suicide had surpassed HIV as the leading cause of death among gay and bisexual men.Source
Why do suicide rates remain so high among the LGBTQ population?
The predominant theory is called “minority stress.” The idea is that sexual minorities accumulate stressors in multiple forms.
For other minority groups, living in a community with people like them is linked to lower rates of anxiety and depression. It helps to be close to people who instinctively understand you. But for us, the effect is the opposite. Several studies have found that living in gay neighborhoods predicts higher rates of risky sex and meth use and less time spent on other community activities like volunteering or playing sports. A 2009 study suggested that gay men who were more linked to the gay community were less satisfied with their own romantic relationships.Source
“Gay and bisexual men talk about the gay community as a significant source of stress in their lives,” Pachankis says. The fundamental reason for this, he says, is that “in-group discrimination” does more harm to your psyche than getting rejected by members of the majority. It’s easy to ignore, roll your eyes and put a middle finger up to straight people who don’t like you because, whatever, you don’t need their approval anyway. Rejection from other gay people, though, feels like losing your only way of making friends and finding love. Being pushed away from your own people hurts more because you need them more.
Pachankis and his colleagues found that the stress gay and bisexual men reported experiencing related to their community’s preoccupation with sex, status and competition, as well as racism within their ranks, was associated with compromised mental health, especially for those lower on the gay-status totem pole.Source
Local men in his studies rarely report, he says, “‘I had a really difficult week because someone called me a fag.’ It’s much, much more common that folks are talking about intraminority stressors of a lot of dating apps, judgment, and sexual racism within the community.”
Closeted men were less likely to be depressed than out men. Men who were recently out experienced higher odds of major depressive disorder, and generalized anxiety disorder as compared to closeted men.Source
And he is apparently gayer than springtime, because the comments are quite heavily sprinkled with references to "your side" - which is to say, those of us men who like dating, having sex with, and marrying actual women.Homophobia is a hatred of gays, not heterosexuality. I am calling you a bigot for lying about gays.
Our side, I would remind you, is the overwhelming majority of all men - well over 95% of us are straight as a ruler, given that only about 4% of the general population is homosexual and vanishingly smaller numbers are part of the whole LGBTWTFISTHIS menagerie in the various other flavours of that particular sandwich.Being pro gay isn't being anti straight. Enough with the false dilemma. And going "we are the majority thus normal thus right" is fallicious thinking: https://amp.reddit.com/philosophy/comments/24kqoe/is_the_appeal_to_normality_fallacious_in_ethics/
And second, his comments are full of classic examples of what we might call: http:\Idontknowhowtoembedhyperlinksin2018.com.So?
"It is usually at this point that someone would attempt to counteract Ms. Barwick's arguments, based entirely on anecdotal evidence, by attempting to drown out such horrendous badthink by shouting about how THE SCIENCE IS SETTLED.Really? You said her critics use anecdotal evidence ignoring that she does as well.
How is miss Barwick not anecdotal at all and somehow statistically representative?
Your reading comprehension is pathetic. What I actually said was related to Ms. Barwick's critics."
"I know how they operate. I worked in two such institutions - both of which were caught up in massive market-rigging and manipulation scandals dating back to 2008."Oh goody more ancedotal evidence to argue against facts when it is convient for you, but not others argumening against you. Show evidence of this surveys existence!
I used to work in a bank similar to JPM - located in a building not far away from their corporate headquarters in New York, actually. When Gay Pride month came around in 2016 and 2017, we were given little paper placards that we could display in our cubicles, proclaiming ourselves to be an "ALLY" of the LGBT movement. The more "virtuous" of us would display two or even three placards. (Like my last boss before I was let go, for instance - my opinions about him are well known by this point.)
My previous employer did something similar with a survey that they sent around in 2017. Needless to say, I dumped the placard into the bin and deleted that survey link right out of my inbox.
The idea that corporate America is not in thrall to the Rainbow Mafia is so ridiculous as to be unworthy of comment by this point.
"First, Ryu238's preferred method of argument appears to be the standard Leftist "Appeal to Amenable Authority" - i.e. every single comment is liberally (see what I did there?) interspersed with links to Leftist clickbait rags like Vox and Salon."That's an appeal to bias.
"That Salon article you linked to did not demonstrate that Ben Shapiro failed to "humiliate" a trans-woman (read: man) who calls himself "Zoey Tur". All he did was state openly that Zoey Tur is a man."What were his exact words? "What are your genetics, sir?"
If you watch a video clip of Little Benny's "failed attempt" to "humiliate" Mr. Tur, you will realise very quickly that the one who came across as an ass was the tranny.You think that Ben Shapiro was speaking truth, when he really wasn't. He insulted a Trans woman: https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/voices/stop-using-phony-science-to-justify-transphobia/
That this is even open to question simply shows how degraded the Western world has become. Every single cell in Mr. Tur's body says that he is male, because he was born with an X-Y chromosomal pair. He might be mentally deluded enough to call himself a woman, but that does not make him one."
"Your link literally goes to a source about how JP Morgan Chase sent out an "anonymous response" survey to employees asking them whether they were LGBT allies. And JPM made it impossible to access that survey without providing your employee ID number. Thanks for proving my point."Liar liar. Here is the link: https://www.truthorfiction.com/chase-gay-loyalty-survey/
"I never said they were, you moron. Read what I actually wrote."Ok then: https://donotlink.it/kRQXJ
Sounds like you didn't think it was a distinction considering the tone here."Drag queens, aka transvestites, are not permitted at events celebrating gay "pride", because men dress up as women for a "hobby". But men who think of themselves as women, aka transsexuals, and who actually do claim to be women, like Bruce Jenner, are to be welcomed with open arms.
In other words, the only distinction between being a drag queen, a fairy, and a man with severe mental issues is FEELZ."
Several years later, we now have drag queen story hour. So yeah this went nowhere."But by their very extremism, their own intolerance for dissent, their own refusal to listen to reason, the gay "rights" movement is now revealing its true face. I would not be surprised to see a ruthless purging of "moderate" types from that movement in the near future. As the story above shows, that process has already begun."
"Have you ever actually bothered to read Charles Murray's work? I did. Try doing that, instead of quoting what liberal New York magazine writers think of him."An ad homenin...really? How is my source wrong? It is an exchange between Murray and someone rebutting him. https://www.nybooks.com/articles/1985/10/24/losing-ground-an-exchange/?pagination=false
"Moreover: heterosexuals, and heterosexual couples, are normal. Homosexuals are not. And homosexuals, particularly homosexual men, are significantly more likely to molest and sexually abuse children, especially boys, than heterosexual ones."Wrong: https://medium.com/@juliussky/gays-arent-more-likely-to-be-pedophiles-611a48469655
Why don't you learn how to debate like an adult, instead of a little bitch? You are engaging in what is known as the "genetic fallacy" - go look it up, you might learn something useful.You were using it as the only bit of evidence for your argument. Off course I would attack it. Especially since it seems to still be wrong: https://web.archive.org/web/20080908043935/https://www.seductionlabs.org/2007/05/04/sperm-wars-the-science-of-sex-reviewed-and-appraised/
"My reference to Robin Baker's book had nothing to do with the link to the reddit post that you provided as an "argument". You attempt to discredit the whole book by looking at a few specific things that the authors got wrong - which, by the way, I will be happy to concede that they did.So they get so much wrong but you still trust them? Off course you ignore what he really said about gays: https://robin-baker.com/books/sperm-wars/status/#Homo https://books.google.com/books?id=R_prQ-xUCNUC&pg=PA283&lpg=PA283&dq=sperm+wars+homosexuality&source=bl&ots=MnyTv2JOmx&sig=ACfU3U25eo5ItgeCyoQOtYAiazOeC4W9MQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjlsLmm9_XnAhUdknIEHX7AA5oQ6AEwDXoECAcQAQ#v=onepage&q=sperm%20wars%20homosexuality&f=false
What I was referring to, on the other hand, comes along much later in the book, and has to do with how gay men and women behave. That has nothing to do with whether or not men produce "blocker" and "killer" and "egg-getter" sperm."
...why lie? He makes no such claims in his bookHomosexual couples, depending on the specific type involved (male-male or female-female), essentially act like extreme examples of the phenotypes upon which they are based. In simple terms, this means that male homosexuals generally act like extremely oversexed men, and female homosexuals act like extremely undersexed women. (I'm generalising significantly, obviously.) This observation has been borne out in several studies and was documented extensively in Robin Baker's groundbreaking classic Sperm Wars.
One,gays being promiscuous is an horrible exaggeration: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.indy100.com/article/a-new-study-has-debunked-one-of-the-worst-misconceptions-about-gay-men-and-sex--ZJgoq0cO_W%3fampNeither extreme is healthy for young children. A household in which sexual promiscuity is normal is unlikely to result in normal children. A household in which there is no strong father figure present is unlikely to generate masculine sons or feminine daughters- as we have seen, repeatedly, in normal households the world over. A household with lesbian parents in which it is highly likely that one of the two partners involved is abusive toward the other, whether physically, mentally, emotionally, or all three, is NOT going to be a healthy environment for a child.
"From the perspective of us normal people, we do not like your lifestyle and do not approve of it. We tolerate it as long as you keep it out of our faces and do not insist on special rights to legitimise your degeneracy. That tolerance has its limits, and you are going to find that out one way or another, very likely the hard way, if you insist on continuing to ram your rainbow agenda down our throats. We don't like it and we will not stand for it."What do you think you know about gays? http://homoresponse.blogspot.com/2011/06/mental-health-and-substance-abuse.html
"Let's see if you can follow this simple logical syllogism:"Which doesn't match what we see in reality? https://whatweknow.inequality.cornell.edu/topics/lgbt-equality/what-does-the-scholarly-research-say-about-the-wellbeing-of-children-with-gay-or-lesbian-parents/
"I am aware of the problems with the Regnerus study about children raised by gay parents. Unfortunately for you, I mentioned nothing about that study in my post - and in fact that study has very little to do with the context of my statement."Other than you are making the same mistakes Renguers made with his study. Thinking single parent outcomes can be applied to other family structures beyond "traditional"
"The first leg of that stool is empirically rigourous and well known. The second leg is a plain and simple fact. The third leg follows naturally through straightforward deduction."The first leg is another fallacy also made by Renguers.
Furthermore, I did not state or even imply that single mothers are the same as a couple. Again, look at the syllogism above. It's very straightforward.Yeah but all you data on fatherless couples come from single mothers Remember?
Children raised without fathers are statistically likely to have serious social and economic problems in later life.Same without mothers either: https://brandongaille.com/19-compelling-motherless-children-statistics/
Three women were "married" together into a "throuple" with no male presence involved in a parenting role.Nope: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-polyamorists-next-doo201806/myths-about-polyamory
Therefore, any children born or adopted into such an arrangement are likely to have significant social and economic problems later in life
This is what he links to: http://www.orthodoxytoday.org/articles/DaileyGayAdopt.phpIt is usually at this point that someone would attempt to counteract Ms. Barwick's arguments, based entirely on anecdotal evidence, by attempting to drown out such horrendous badthink by shouting about how THE SCIENCE IS SETTLED!!! about gay parents having no more negative effects on the cognitive and social development of children than straight ones. They resort to this line of argument because, well, it's the only one that they have. (Well, that, and the movie The Kids Are Alright, which I have not watched and almost certainly never will.)
They do this because it is the only way in which they can ensure that their FEELZ will remain unhurt by such chaotic badthink- how dare we cretinous knuckle-dragging mouth-breathing homophobic right-wing nutjobs question the idea that gay parents are just as good as straight ones?!!
Except... it turns out that the science is not settled. (Sounds familiar, doesn't it?)
"First link has nothing whatsoever to do with the article I cited in my post; the name "Xiradou" does not appear once in any of the cited studies in that article"Apologies, the first link got mixed up. Here is the one I wanted:
"Second link goes nowhere. That was a particularly stupid and inept straw-man attack."Here is the actual story: https://shadowproof.com/2013/12/10/family-research-council-distorts-researchers-work-a-decade-after-he-demanded-a-retraction/
"And all of that is before we get to the other major reason why people like me think that male homosexuality, in particular, is wrong and disgusting: homosexual men are vastly more promiscuous than heterosexual ones, and are vastly higher risks for disease transmission. The highest rates of HIV infections and disease transmissions, by far, are to be found among injectable-using gay men."You first link misuses studies as shown here: https://holybulliesandheadlessmonsters.blogspot.com/2006_09_11_archive.html
"That isn't my view - that's the WHO's view, and the CDC is calling the spread of HIV/AIDS an "epidemic". Since gay men, and specifically injectable-using gay men, are driving the vast majority of new infections, the conclusion follows naturally."The CDC also says that stigma and discrimination is a big factor: https://www.cdc.gov/msmhealth/stigma-and-discrimination.htm
Right, here are the relevant quotes from the link:You mean this one? http://homoresponse.blogspot.com/2011/05/countering-heterosexist-arguments.html?m=1#08
Seems you forgot to mention these...why?Studies suggest that about 25% of homosexual males do not have anal sex, though representative lifetime prevalence rates are very hard to find:
- In a U.S. survey, 50% of men who had had a same-sex partner since age 18 had never had anal sex (Laumann et al. 1994, "The Social Organization of Sexuality" table 8.6, p318).
- The authors of the same study noted that "20-25 percent of the narrowest categorization of the men report never having had anal intercourse" (p320), regarding table 8.6.
- A large Scottish study found that 25% of MSM had no anal sex in the past year, despite it recruiting from gay bars (Hart et al. 1999, Sexually Transmitted Infections, 75(4), 242–246, table 2, p244).
- A CDC survey that also recruited from clubs/bars found that 38.8% of MSM reported not having had anal sex in the preceeding 6 months in 1997 (CDC MMWR Weekly, January 29, 1999 48(03):45-48).
- 37% of the MSM in the Young Men's Health Study reported no receptive anal intercourse in the last year. No data is readily available for insertive anal intercourse. (Osmond et al. 1994, American Journal of Public Health, 84(12), 1933–1937, p1935).
"First, these estimates are questionable to begin with. The CDC's data are based on a special tabulation done by the NCHS, not on raw data. Other sources put the prevalence of anal sex among MSM - men who have sex with men, which is a superset of the population of outright gay and bisexual men - at about 90%, and at 5-10% among sexually active women."Again msm is not the same as homosexual orientation. Your link doesn't even say that msm is a superset of the gay and bisexual population. https://www.webmd.com/sex/anal-sex-health-concerns#1 And off course data needs to be tabulated! https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nsfg/key_statistics/s.htm#analsex
"This alone illustrates why the Appeal To Authority is such an irritating and stupid debate tactic; you can find virtually any factoids you want to support your argument, but if they are not backed up by clear deductive or inductive logic as well, they are empty"Like what you just did? Because you also didn't consider how often gays have anal sex: https://www.gaystarnews.com/article/how-do-men-and-women-prepare-to-bottom-for-anal-sex/
"Moreover, if we look at the quotes from the cited studies, the fact that men have anal sex with women has nothing to do with the question of whether homosexuality is wrong. The former is an empirical fact; the latter is a moral judgement. The latter can be supported by the former, but the former has nothing to do with the latter."Beyond raising the question why the double standard that we ignore hetero couples doing it but not gays?
"Why do I consider homosexuality to be wrong and disgusting, particularly of the male kind? For several reasons - not least of which is the fact that the human body is not designed for anal sex."Neither is the female body. Indeed reducing sexual orientation to sexual behavior is faulty because they aren't the same: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_identity
Get it? Homosexual identity is attraction and has a purpose, alloparenting: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/147470491301100202Sexuality is not about who you have sex with, or how often you have it. Sexuality is about your sexual feelings, thoughts, attractions and behaviours towards other people. You can find other people physically, sexually or emotionally attractive, and all those things are a part of your sexuality.
I didn't say that BMI is useless. I said that it is a problematic metric. As a very general guide, it has some uses, but for men like me, who work out frequently and have a decent amount of dense muscle, it does not apply very well.No the BMI is bs in general: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/bmi-is-a-terrible-measure-of-health/ https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/265215.php It isn't just muscle mass that is a problem
It's not a "double" standard, it's just a standard standard. The distortions in BMI usually occur with people who have large amounts of dense muscle mass. That does not apply in the case of fat lesbians, or anyone else who is overweight/obese and does not have large amounts of muscle mass.
Yet, overall, gay men act like women- the gay-fairy stereotype exists for a reason- and gay women act like men, as anyone who has ever had to deal with the distasteful aftermath of a gay pride rally has found out.Really?
It is therefore unsurprising that gay men think that, like, they look totally fat in those jeans, darling- while gay women would be more interested in the donuts and Twinkies Danishes muffins pastries.
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